College

[Danieljay]

I was wondering what colleges people have gone to for technical fields like Web developement, Server Administration and all of that kind of stuff. Thanks for your help.

*If this is in the wrong spot mod please move.

[interactive]

I've been going to a local community college for the last 2 semesters. They offer a Web development class, but it said something about frontpage so I decided that's a no. Depending on what size city you live in, there may be a computer school. There also may be a ITT-Tech where you live, look into that though I've heard from some graduates that they weren't realy able to use their degree.

[Chicken]

Originally posted by interactive:

They offer a Web development class, but it said something about frontpage so I decided that's a no.
That's certainly a red-flag! I have had to take classes like that as well, for teachers. They show you all sorts of amazing things like how to change the font in MS Word, etc. Day one, first hour or two was devoted to, "How to set up a HotMail account." I nearly hung myself. Did learn some things in Excel though, but I probably could have used to the 'help' section and saved myself $1,000.
...I've heard from some graduates that they weren't realy able to use their degree.
Newsflash: This is how it is with most people, any major, any field. You'll spend 4 years and $100,000 worth of your parent's money just to get on the 'fast-track' to management at a PizzaHut or Enterprise Rent-a-car. Those Enterprise/PizzaHut management postions are bogus, in case you hadn't figured it out already.

[interactive]

All for a piece of paper. I took java last semester, and I'll say that the instructor did a great job at teaching the class. The problem was that for some reason people got in the class with out doing to pre-req's. There were 4 or 5 people in there who had no idea what the internet is.

[Chicken]

Well, I will say that that piece of paper comes in handy sometimes. When I first started teaching, they were desperate, and I took what amounted to a day-to-day assignment. No contract, benefits, pay for holidays or days not worked (no vacation time), etc. But I only had to pass the CBEST and have a college degree -in anything, which was lucky because I had a degree in Photography and Graphic Design. So I could sub, and took some more classes, passed the bastage MSAT, and am still going to school and probably will always be. That's a bit odd as I didn't particularly like college and wanted to drop out Freshman year. Didn't...

[FindSP.com]

Just give it a few month and you'll be able to do a p.H.D in HTML :)

[shaunewing]

I personally have Certificate II in Information Technology - which was done part time over 2 years (3 hours a week).

Now I'm almost halfway through "Bachelor of Information Technology" at University. I have already been offered jobs at two very large companies; but I declined and am going to get the "piece of paper".

My overall goal is get my PhD in HTML :D (joking with that of course :))

--Shaun

[suppleSupport]

Originally posted by Danieljay:

I was wondering what colleges people have gone to for technical fields like Web developement, Server Administration and all of that kind of stuff. Thanks for your help.

If you want to go by rankings:

1. Carnegie Mellon University (PA) 4.9
Massachusetts Institute of Technology 4.9
Stanford University (CA) 4.9
University of California–Berkeley 4.9
5. University of Illinois–Urbana-Champaign 4.6
6. Cornell University (NY) 4.5
7. University of Texas–Austin 4.4
University of Washington 4.4
9. Princeton University (NJ) 4.3
10. California Institute of Technology 4.1
University of Wisconsin–Madison 4.1
12. Georgia Institute of Technology 4.0
University of Maryland–College Park 4.0

Rf: http://lazowska.cs.washington.edu/usnews2003/cs.htm

[allan]

Originally posted by elevation:
University of Maryland–College Park 4.0


My alma mater and where I got my first email account in 1987 -- allan@wam.umd.edu :love:

Back on topic -- what Chicken said is very true. I have missed out on numerous opportunities because I do not have a degree (I am 9 credits short, but I would have to take the classes on campus, so it makes it kind of difficult). Having a degree is very important in some companies, and not having one limits your advancement potential -- even if that degree has nothing to do with your field.

[kunal]

hey
dont forget mine!! Rochester Institute of Technology... if your not of the female gender, you are not welcome here... lol... j/k...

you should check out our IT program.. its excellent...

kunal

[kunal]

Originally posted by allan:

My alma mater and where I got my first email account in 1987 -- allan@wam.umd.edu :love:

Back on topic -- what Chicken said is very true. I have missed out on numerous opportunities because I do not have a degree (I am 9 credits short, but I would have to take the classes on campus, so it makes it kind of difficult). Having a degree is very important in some companies, and not having one limits your advancement potential -- even if that degree has nothing to do with your field.


you went to UMD??? :bowdown: :bigeyes:

[allan]

Originally posted by kunal:

you went to UMD??? :bowdown: :bigeyes:

Yea, and I had several friends who were computer science majors there, they all make boatloads more money than I do :D.

But even back when we went, there was a big math/computer science influence on the campus. I was a Sociology major (it had the highest female to male ratio of any major except women's studies :)) and I still learned to program. Part of the sociology curriculum was at least two semesters of statistical analysis programming, in my case SAS and SPSS. I actually took 4 programming classes -- of course none of it was applicable to other programming languages :).

[Danieljay]

Thanks for all of your posts. I am looking forward to hearing everybody elses posts. Did anybody take any computer repair classes here? I was wondering if getting certified in A+ would help a lot in getting started in some of the process? I am currently in one of thoughs classes and now just starting network +. Then next year will be all Network +. I was wondering if the ITT web developement program would be something decent to go to? Thanks for all of your posts.

[kunal]

Originally posted by allan:

Yea, and I had several friends who were computer science majors there, they all make boatloads more money than I do :D.

But even back when we went, there was a big math/computer science influence on the campus. I was a Sociology major (it had the highest female to male ratio of any major except women's studies :)) and I still learned to program. Part of the sociology curriculum was at least two semesters of statistical analysis programming, in my case SAS and SPSS. I actually took 4 programming classes -- of course none of it was applicable to other programming languages :).

:offtopic:
lol.. but seriously, what I wouldnt give to get into their entrepreneur program :) from what I hear, its a party school, and has an awesome MIS program too... i dunno how i got stuck in RIT :(

hehe :)
kunal

[Dapon]

I started at CS Chico and got my degree from CS Sacramento. Hate to admit it but they didn't have computer courses back then. I have a BS in business and it has opened some doors for me. (I was in college from 76 - 81)

[interactive]

Originally posted by Danieljay:

Thanks for all of your posts. I am looking forward to hearing everybody elses posts. Did anybody take any computer repair classes here? I was wondering if getting certified in A+ would help a lot in getting started in some of the process? I am currently in one of thoughs classes and now just starting network +. Then next year will be all Network +. I was wondering if the ITT web developement program would be something decent to go to? Thanks for all of your posts.

A quick help would be to get your A+. That would get your foot in the door at alot of companies. I've gotten it, so I'm sure you could (depends on your knowledge though). As for the ITT deal, I'm not sure. If you want to become a web developer I would start now. If you just want the peice of paper, I would do the ITT thing. Again just my opinion.

[Dapon]

My brother in law did the ITT thing. Was at the top of his class. But he is still doijng roofing to pay the bills. I would hire him but he is in N CA.

[101sales]

If you're going to do web development begin right away. You'll learn more by making mistakes etc. and fixing them than you will in a class room. The sooner you get your hands into development the faster you'll be ahead. JMO

[interactive]

I think that goes for any computer related field. You learn more by on-the-job experience rather than sitting in a classroom. If you want to do web development, start now. Keep in mind thought (this is just my opinion), unless you're going to target a local market it is already a flooded market.

[nameslave]

What can't I have a degree even CLOSE to Domains or DNS?

Anyone even cares enough to read (or just scan) my dissertation on "How does Organizational Culture interact with Change in the Implementation Process (http://www.anthonyng.com/dissertation )"? LOL! Chicken perhaps, as it's an M.Ed. dissertation after all.

(That URL actually links to an abbreviated version; the original dissertation was about 20,000 words in length!)

[Danieljay]

Yeah I am doing really well in the A+ right now. I am in a tech class through my high school. I am also working on learning php and mysql currently. I am also working on learning visual basic, c++ and all kinds of other languages. (I am very crazy for learning all kinds of things at once, O well).

[Chicken]

Originally posted by nameslave:

What can't I have a degree even CLOSE to Domains or DNS?

Anyone even cares enough to read (or just scan) my dissertation on "How does Organizational Culture interact with Change in the Implementation Process (http://www.anthonyng.com/dissertation )"? LOL! Chicken perhaps, as it's an M.Ed. dissertation after all.

(That URL actually links to an abbreviated version; the original dissertation was about 20,000 words in length!)
Even Chicken doesn't want to read 20,000 words about much of anything really. ;) When it comes out on video, let me know :D