Crazy Host, Check them and ""Comment"", How can they Offer this

[Vinayak]

This Host must be real crazy, I found them while looking for some good reseller account.

They are offering the following reseller account at $75/mo + $35 Setup

Or

Just $800/yr

Tell me is it possible

http://www.5spider5.com/reseller/


400 Gigabytes Webspace
1000 Gigabytes Data Transfer per month!!!
You get one main ip address for your clients to share.
You get dns and ip address to direct your clients to .
Take 72 hours for service to be activated.
30 days free before billing will start
Unix Server w/Red Hat Linux 7.2 OS
Cpanel™ Reseller Control Panel!/Webhost Manager
Cpanel™Client Control Panel!/ Webhost Manager
Host Unlimited DOMAINS!
No setup fees/hidden costs
No Contracts!!
Webmail for Each Domain!
SMTP Server!
Unlimited E-mail Addresses!
Unlimited POP3 Mailboxes!
Unlimited Autoresponders!
Unlimited E-mail Forwarding (Aliases)!
Unlimited FTP Access!
Unlimited PHP4 and mySQL (Unix)
ASP (ASP for Perl Module)
FrontPage 2002 Extensions
128 SSL Server
CGI Scripting Support

Password Protected Directories
All Control Panels Powered By Cpanel ™
Graphical Website Stats For Each Domain
Spam Filters
Raw Access Logs
98.9% Uptime (Free Month If Lower Then 98.9% Up Time)
30 Day Money Back Guarantee
Enable/Suspend Client Accounts
CGI Script Resources
APACHE Handlers

CRON Jobs

Search Engine Submission
MIME Types
Whois & Trace route Utility
HotLink Protection
File Manager
Server Side PGP Encryption
Customized Error Pages
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Hope you people can have some explaination, how he can do this, as I am a total newbie in this field. One more thing I must mention ---- There Response is very fast, just in 10 minutes I had the reply from them, Offering me $800/yr, Quote. Through pdesk

This offer is not just for me, they are offering this to any one who want it, at $75/mo + $35/Setup, its only that when I asked about yearly payment they told me $800/yr, and yes any one can have this for the same rate from them.

Plus just check them they are a Hosting Assured company assured by http://www.findmyhosting.com/.

This 400 Gb space was the thing that makes me suspect them, maybe they are using many Harddisk in one server.

Any opinion.


There Name Servers are
NS1.CHIEFHOST.US
NS2.CHIEFHOST.US

I did a search on them, got this result, now may be you people can help

NS1.CHIEFHOST.US:207.44.163.75

OrgName: Everyones Internet, Inc.
Address: 2600 Southwest Frwy., Suite 500

City: Houston

StateProv: TX

PostalCode: 77098

Country: US

Comment:

RegDate:

Updated: 2003-03-18



AdminHandle: RW172-ARIN

AdminName: Williams, Randy

AdminPhone: +1-713-400-5400

AdminEmail: admin@ev1.net



TechHandle: RW172-ARIN

TechName: Williams, Randy

TechPhone: +1-713-400-5400

TechEmail: admin@ev1.net



# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2003-04-04 20:00

# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
OrgID: EVRY
Address: 2600 Southwest Frwy., Suite 500
City: Houston
StateProv: TX
PostalCode: 77098
Country: US

NetRange: 207.44.128.0 - 207.44.255.255
CIDR: 207.44.128.0/17
NetName: EVRY-BLK-11
NetHandle: NET-207-44-128-0-1
Parent: NET-207-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS1.EV1.NET
NameServer: NS2.EV1.NET
Comment:
RegDate:
Updated: 2002-05-08

TechHandle: RW172-ARIN
TechName: Williams, Randy
TechPhone: +1-713-400-5400
TechEmail: admin@ev1.net

OrgTechHandle: RW172-ARIN
OrgTechName: Williams, Randy
OrgTechPhone: +1-713-400-5400
OrgTechEmail: admin@ev1.net

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2003-04-04 20:00
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.


Or this one

www.5spider5.com:207.44.162.99

OrgName: Everyones Internet, Inc.
Address: 2600 Southwest Frwy., Suite 500

City: Houston

StateProv: TX

PostalCode: 77098

Country: US

Comment:

RegDate:

Updated: 2003-03-18



AdminHandle: RW172-ARIN

AdminName: Williams, Randy

AdminPhone: +1-713-400-5400

AdminEmail: admin@ev1.net



TechHandle: RW172-ARIN

TechName: Williams, Randy

TechPhone: +1-713-400-5400

TechEmail: admin@ev1.net



# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2003-04-04 20:00

# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
OrgID: EVRY
Address: 2600 Southwest Frwy., Suite 500
City: Houston
StateProv: TX
PostalCode: 77098
Country: US

NetRange: 207.44.128.0 - 207.44.255.255
CIDR: 207.44.128.0/17
NetName: EVRY-BLK-11
NetHandle: NET-207-44-128-0-1
Parent: NET-207-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS1.EV1.NET
NameServer: NS2.EV1.NET
Comment:
RegDate:
Updated: 2002-05-08

TechHandle: RW172-ARIN
TechName: Williams, Randy
TechPhone: +1-713-400-5400
TechEmail: admin@ev1.net

OrgTechHandle: RW172-ARIN
OrgTechName: Williams, Randy
OrgTechPhone: +1-713-400-5400
OrgTechEmail: admin@ev1.net

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2003-04-04 20:00
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.

This was the trace result

Target: www.5spider5.com
Date: 4/5/2003 (Saturday), 11:07:41 AM
Nodes: 18


Node Data
Node Net Reg IP Address Location Node Name
1 - - 219.65.229.25 29.010N, 77.450E vinsar
2 1 - 202.54.96.173 Unknown
3 1 - 202.54.96.140 Unknown
4 1 - 203.200.87.3 Unknown
5 1 - 203.200.87.113 Unknown
6 2 - 202.54.2.237 Unknown
7 3 1 208.51.142.109 New York so-2-3-3.ar2.nyc2.gblx.net
8 4 1 64.215.195.169 New York pos3-0-2488m.cr2.nyc2.gblx.net
9 5 1 208.178.174.118 Unknown pos1-0-622m.cr1.wdc2.gblx.net
10 6 1 64.214.65.141 Unknown so1-2-0-2488m.ar1.dca3.gblx.net
11 7 2 208.51.6.34 Unknown p1-0.globalcrossing.asbnva01.us.bb.verio.net
12 8 2 129.250.2.82 Unknown p16-1-0-0.r20.asbnva01.us.bb.verio.net
13 8 2 129.250.2.74 Unknown p16-3-0-0.r00.stngva01.us.bb.verio.net
14 8 2 129.250.5.34 Dallas p16-0-1-1.r21.dllstx01.us.bb.verio.net
15 8 2 129.250.5.5 Houston p16-6-0-0.r00.hstntx01.us.bb.verio.net
16 8 2 129.250.10.70 Houston ge-1.ev1.hstntx01.us.bb.verio.net
17 9 - 207.218.245.39 Unknown
18 10 3 207.44.162.99 Unknown www.5spider5.com


Packet Data
Node High Low Avg Tot Lost
1 0 0 0 1 0
2 159 159 159 1 0
3 124 124 124 1 0
4 129 129 129 1 0
5 126 126 126 1 0
6 139 139 139 1 0
7 568 568 568 1 0
8 563 563 563 1 0
9 567 567 567 1 0
10 571 571 571 1 0
11 564 564 564 1 0
12 597 597 597 1 0
13 597 597 597 1 0
14 614 614 614 1 0
15 615 615 615 1 0
16 607 607 607 1 0
17 603 603 603 1 0
18 641 641 641 1 0


Network Data
Network id#: 1
10th Floor, 2 MG Road
Fort Mumbai - 400001
India

Network id#: 2
10th Floor, 2 MG Road
Fort Mumbai - 400001
India

Network id#: 3
Global Crossing GBLX-6D (NET-208-50-192-0-1)
208.50.192.0 - 208.51.255.255
GC Internal FGC-REQ000000004837 (NET-208-51-142-0-1)
208.51.142.0 - 208.51.142.255

Network id#: 4

OrgName: Global Crossing
OrgID: GBLX
Address: 14605 South 50th Street
City: Phoenix
StateProv: AZ
PostalCode: 85044-6471
Country: US

Network id#: 5
Global Crossing GBLX-5 (NET-208-178-0-0-1)
208.178.0.0 - 208.178.255.255
GC Internal Department FGC-REQ000000002985 (NET-208-178-174-0-1)
208.178.174.0 - 208.178.174.255

Network id#: 6
Global Crossing GBLX-11D (NET-64-212-0-0-1)
64.212.0.0 - 64.215.255.255
Globalcrossing Internal GBX-REQ000000011413 (NET-64-214-65-0-1)
64.214.65.0 - 64.214.65.255

Network id#: 7
Global Crossing GBLX-6D (NET-208-50-192-0-1)
208.50.192.0 - 208.51.255.255
GC Internal FGC-REQ000000005069 (NET-208-51-6-0-1)
208.51.6.0 - 208.51.6.255

Network id#: 8

OrgName: Verio, Inc.
OrgID: VRIO
Address: 8005 South Chester Street
Address: Suite 200
City: Englewood
StateProv: CO
PostalCode: 80112
Country: US

Network id#: 9

OrgName: Everyones Internet, Inc.
OrgID: EVRY
Address: 3333 Katy Frwy
City: Houston
StateProv: TX
PostalCode: 77007
Country: US

Network id#: 10

OrgName: Everyones Internet, Inc.
OrgID: EVRY
Address: 3333 Katy Frwy
City: Houston
StateProv: TX
PostalCode: 77007
Country: US



Registrant Data
Registrant id#: 1
Registrant:
Global Crossing (GBLX5-DOM)
95 N. Fitzhugh Street
Rochester, NY 14614-1212
US

Registrant id#: 2
Verio, Inc
8005 South Chester Street
Suite 200
Englewood
CO
80112
UNITED STATES

Registrant id#: 3
Registrant:
5spider5 5spider5

[interactive]

LMAO look at the offer, like below the 1000gbs transfer "No setup fees". Yet at the top it says $35. They are probably just overselling by alot.

[Vinayak]

Well these guys are resellers themselvs, they are selling http://www.web-xperts.com, this is what I found out after a bit of investigation. And the web-xperts.com themselves are not a reputed company.

[mhale]

I think they are highly confused between megabytes and gigabytes. I don't think there are any 400GB hdd's, are there?

[Box]

Their Hosting Assured page shows they are in mediation anyway.

[thebyp2]

Originally posted by mhale:

I think they are highly confused between megabytes and gigabytes. I don't think there are any 400GB hdd's, are there?

there are 400gb hard drives.

its people like that guy who give overselling the bad image it has. overselling is a very reasonable practice providing its done with some common sense. (i.e you have the ability to house the extra usage if needed)

[Vinayak]

The problem is not 400 Gb hdd, because multiple Harddrives can be used to achieve that kind of offer, but the problem is the kind of offer they are giving, how can they offer that fo rsuch a low price, what they are offering is something more than a dedicated server priced less than an average reseller account.

[proxy]

crazy isnt the word i would use. Lack of profesionalism and perhaps dilusional. They are major oversellers like %90 of the other $2.95 webhosts..... disguisting.

[Vinayak]

they changed there plan it seems.

Now 15 Gb Space
15 Gb Traffic
for the same rate, it seems they came to there senses.

[Robert]

They oversell

[matrosov]

Well based on whois information their servers are at rackshack and I don't think RS even offers hard drives of the size to achieve 400 Gigs of disk space. As far as 1Terrabyte bandwidth back in a day RS used to offer unmetered Cogent connected Celeron servers I think on a 10mb connection for something like $329. So if they have one of those they could probably come close to the bandwidth promise but that still leaves the HD issue.

[beley]

If it seems to good to be true...

Some people will never get this... it's never as good as it looks. You may be working with a 13 year old who's at school when the server crashes, or a scam artist who only wants to take your money and run. Or you just may bet really bad ping times and always have a down server. Either way, if it looks too good to be true, it is! There are absolutes in our industry, you can't expect to get a deal like that and keep it for long, eventually someone will go out of business or just quit because there's not profit in it.

[xerocity.com]

"98.9% Uptime (Free Month If Lower Then 98.9% Up Time)" :eek: :confused:

At 98.9% uptime they allow you to have 475.2 minutes of downtime or almost 8 hours a month (that's way too much for comfort).

[sopia_jane]

I uploaded 500KB of data to my crazy host guy account (2mb mini account)

The disk usage that they had for me jumped from 0MB to 1.5 MB.

They said that this was due to my stats folder and offered to delete stats logging.

This made no difference. I asked them for a breakdown of my disk usage and they happily provided me with one.

According to the breakdown, a 50 bytes file is 5KB when uploaded.:bs:

This was the same for every file that I uploaded, which doesn't make much sense to me.

I asked them about this and they did not respond.

I have no other files (datebases etc) that could account for a whopping 1 meg jump.

I think that they are trying to trick mini account holders into upgrading their accounts (and therefore paying them more) by making the new user think that they have used more space than they actually have.

Perhaps this is how they can afford to offer such crazy prices!

It is ashame because other than this, their service is top notch.

Has anyone else had a similar experience?

[mPowerHost]

They're seriously overselling as that is simply not possible. Also, do a search on web-xperts, they are eBay scammers and have a very bad name.

[iws mike]

Interesting thread ;)