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Hey what do you think about it. What's difference between HHO and WHT?
No doubt that HHO looks great and fast so far. Other then looks what's main difference?
:chicken: what do you think?
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interactive
01-02-03, 06:26 AM
I think that WHT is way over commercialized. And hope HHO will be toned down.
ffeingol
01-02-03, 06:26 AM
Well the smilies are better :D
You have to love dancing bananas!
Frank
I hope maturity remains at a higher level on HO than it currently is on WHT. Do you guys find it really funny how people react when someone (unknowingly) breaks a rule?
"OMG YOU SO DIDN'T JUST DO THAT I'M CALLING A MODERATOR RIGHTTTTTTTTT NOW!!"
Like, come on. :)
Yes, WHT is way over commercialized.
WHT is high School of Webhosting and HHO is College :D
Well I love this banana......
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alchiba
01-02-03, 07:26 AM
The design may have a lot to do with it, but from what I've seen so far it's considerably less, umm, uptight. If we can keep the sniping level near zero then we've really got something here. :)
I'm very happy I found this forum because since RS bought WHT, WHT hasn't been the same. It's good to have a place like this where work-buddies can talk, share and hang out (just like the old days on WHT).
DigitalXWeb
01-02-03, 08:12 AM
Rackshack doesn't control this forum :banana:
I agree with the above post ever since Rackshack bought WHT is has been nothing but :bs: most of the time.
Chicken
01-02-03, 08:28 AM
Well, I'll tell you what I feel...
HHO was not designed to replace WHT. HHO was put up as a place for hosts to discuss hosting issues. The original purpose of WHT was for people to discuss hosts and help them find a provider. I do feel that it has lost some of that, mainly due to not having a clear course of additions and lack of planning.
Ultimately, this worked out (in some ways) to the benefit of the forum. What it has turned into is a place where a wide range of people can get together and discuss various topics (from people looking for hosting, to hosts, to providers for hosts, to providers of providers for hosts, etc.).
HHO has a clear purpose. It is not supposed to attract those looking for $30/yr. hosting. We do have a forum to request it, but beyond that, I don't expect those people to be all that interested in the topics.
The General forum at WHT is packed with all sorts of stuff, you'll notice that Hosting, Etc. here hasn't seen a post yet. I don't expect it to be a big forum (thus it is down at the bottom, not the top), because I've tried to hit most of the major concerns a host would have elsewhere. Each forum is an expansion of some of the general things covered in other forums.
I see WHT heading down a path to compete moreso with the likes of Sitepoint's forums (which I think it would do well against). Although I feel I've had a pretty large hand in WHT, I do not foresee myself as the one to continue it into what it will become.
I think a huge difference between WHT and HHO is that WHT is basically a battlefield for "offer the world for a penny" web hosts and half the threads contain posts where web hosts bash other web hosts.
Chicken
01-02-03, 10:15 AM
Yes, there's that also. Really, you wouldn't believe how difficult it is to manage all of that, especially with very little help at times. For me, another main difference is that my time spent here will benefit me and not others. I feel as though I'm devoting way too much time handling forum issues, rather than helping people and that's not why I joined and participate in discussion forums. When it wasn't so much work, and I didn't spend 4-??? hours every day and just had to move around some posts, etc., and notify a few people, it was one thing. I'm enjoying being able to check out and review web sites and discuss things without all the noise. Something I haven't been able to do in a lonnnng time.
inogenius
01-02-03, 10:32 AM
I don't really mind WHT, however I like the smaller community like HHO is currently. Although the one thing that really bugs me about WHT is it is used too often for support and solving other issues. It seems whenever someone has the simplest problem with their host they post at WHT rather than trying to solve the problem through email or some other means with their hosts.
First off, let me say that I really do enjoy WHT. In the last 12 months I have learned an incredible amount about hosting. A great great resource. Not to mention the chance to meet some quality people. But due to the sheer size of the membership roster, it can become a bit unwieldy at times.
Frankly, I see WHT and HHO complementing each other as opposed to competing with each other. I see a good number of WHT members having "dual citizenship". There will undoubtedy be some things that you can find here and not at WHT, and vice versa.
I really like the forum titles, Chicken. They add a new dimension and have a logical flow. I like the colors and layout - somehow more soothing and relaxing.
The biggest difference I'm hoping for is that given the smaller (for now) and more manageable membership roster, Chicken can have a better hold on the reins so that member behavior does not go out of line as much. At times, we've all seen it turn into a bit of a zoo at WHT.
I also think that the vast experience that Chicken has gained from moderating WHT will give him all the tools necessary to mold HHO into the type and calibre of community he wants it to be. Trying to "change" things at WHT is a touch harder, as people get set in their ways.
So this will be yet one more window that I keep open all day as I work. I'm looking forward to seeing a good strong community developing here.
Vito
StarGate
01-03-03, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by DigitalXWeb
Rackshack doesn't control this forum :banana:
I agree with the above post ever since Rackshack bought WHT is has been nothing but :bs: most of the time.
Second that!
Living Media
01-03-03, 03:19 PM
I'm fairly new to WHT, so I don't remember WHT being anything beyond what it is currently.
Hopefully, though, people looking for ubercheap hosting will stay at WHT and not come knocking here. In some ways the decline of the forums was probably inevitable, with the growing number of people who become webhosts thinking that it's going to be easy money if they just offer things for pennies and try to make the profit on **** sales. It does make things more of a challenge, though.
Of course, seeing as I currently *am* a reseller and therefore still nothing but a zygote, back to the slime pits with me :D
maxhest
01-03-03, 06:43 PM
I like these forums, they are very nice. I like to talk w/ hosts about issues. Also chicken I see more of :)
Chicken
01-03-03, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by Living Media
Of course, seeing as I currently *am* a reseller and therefore still nothing but a zygote, back to the slime pits with me :D
You're actually a prime target audience (reseller who will take the next step into hosting and need help in many areas). Where else does the reseller hang out? I'd like to talk with 5-10,000 or so of your friends :D
maxhest
01-04-03, 12:37 PM
Join the Reseller Club :), I just sold of a customer.. I made 50 bucks.. Not bad..
Living Media
01-04-03, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by Chicken
You're actually a prime target audience (reseller who will take the next step into hosting and need help in many areas). Where else does the reseller hang out? I'd like to talk with 5-10,000 or so of your friends :D
Sadly enough, WHT is pretty much it. I've signed up on some other forums, but only really check into them about once a week to catch the new posts. Despite all the slung mud and a few individuals with truly intriguing mindsets, WHT has been a pretty good resource for finding out opinions, links, and so forth.
I've told some other friends about WHT, and now about HostHideout, though. Hey - get more of us in the reseller biz that have positive customer oriented attitudes, we may all just be able to salvage the reputation of the hosting industry in general.
I will probably never be accused of not being overly naive...
VoxKeysGtr
01-04-03, 03:04 PM
Discussions seem so much more focused here as opposed to WHT. I only found this site today, and I have already seen more useful dialouge here than I typically find at WHT. It does seem more mature at times. Somebody mentioned that WHT is like highschool and this is like college. That comparision holds up accurately. I'm glad I found this place, and I hope it doesn;t degenerate into another WHT.:banana:
michaeln
01-04-03, 05:44 PM
Personally I hope, I know not likely, that this simply stays what the name says. HostHideOut. A place for hosts to talk and relate to each other. Not a place to bash, pick on, degrade others or people trying to get all this stuff for .99 cents.
Anyway I really like the look of this forum. Looks friendly.
Chicken
01-04-03, 07:46 PM
Well, any forum seems more normal when they are only a handful of members as opposed to multiple 10's of thousands. It is the nature of the beast, however this will allow me to do what I can't do elsewhere. As someone said, hopefully this will compliment other forums. For me, it is more about being able to discuss topics I want to discuss, which pertian to the industry I'm most interested in, with like-minded people.
I still like WHT and FWS, however I find that I very little in common and very little to discuss with people who are looking for $25/yr. hosting or free hosting, etc. When I first connected to the internet I was looking for that. Luckily both forums have plenty of other types of people, or I'd go :crazy:
At the moment, it appears there are actually more intelligent people here than the two Chicken mentioned above, but give it time :p:
:chicken:
Don't let it become Host's battlefield...
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W-o-C Dave
08-08-08, 02:51 PM
well i am new here. HI, seems cool though, refreshing change:D
W-o-C Mike
08-08-08, 03:07 PM
They are two different forums...
WHT is too huge for its own good though...
Thanks.
TheGuru
08-09-08, 03:46 PM
Rackshack doesn't control this forum :banana:
I agree with the above post ever since Rackshack bought WHT is has been nothing but :bs: most of the time.
Not only do I fully agree with this comment, but I absolutely love the smilies on this forum. What other webmaster oriented forum has a dancing banana? :banana: That's right. :banana:
FHH - Tim
08-10-08, 10:15 AM
Isn't this a three year old topic ?
Anyway HHO is definetly a little different to WHT, hopefully in a good way.
Chicken
08-10-08, 10:55 AM
Heh yes it is (started a few days after we opened). But at least we like the dancing bananas. Have been collecting more so one day I'll add more useless entertainment.
HostingPlace
09-09-08, 04:56 PM
I think that WHT is way over commercialized. And hope HHO will be toned down.
Thats exactly how i would desribe it, wht is ownder by inet i think thats probably why is is so commercialized.
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