Chicken and The Rest of The Forum

[exasko]

I noticed the server this forum is on has been slow, and seems to be acting up. I would be willing to give Chicken some money to help him upgrade it... would anyone else be willing to do the same?

[David]

Been fine for me.

[Spencer]

I had some problems a few days back, but Chicken said they were performing some upgrades. I think everything is fixed now.

[Robert]

Sure you can give Money to Chicken.

[exasko]

Not really to Chicken, but I wouldn't mind giving 10-20 bucks to HHO

[_Dana_]

count me in :D

[Operator]

HostHideout has been working perfectly fine for me. :)

[bradley]

I'd be willing to let exasko give me 10-20 bucks to improve server performance.

:D

[exasko]

Well since i am 16... I am willing to put $10 in the pot to help HHO... Chicken if your intersted in my offer.. PM

[markblair]

I'm not sure this place needs an upgraded server. I guess Chicken could answer that for sure. Maybe in the future that would be needed but that's something that would probably fall in line with being paid for by sponsors/advertising. As far as donating to the cause, that wouldn't be a problem but again, I don't think it's necessary at the moment. :)

[exasko]

I would be willing to donate money to advertising if Chicken would like that... just tell me if you want a little piece of my wallet Chicken... :)

[Chicken]

:D Well, it's been fast for me, but you might be going through a bad connection route. Donations are always appreciated (maybe I should put up a link), however I don't think you can really raise enough for donations. I'll probably start accepting advertising in order to build up a healthy reserve for the forum. Down the line I may need to pay someone to help with the database (I already have someone in mind), do some programming, pay others for time spent here, buy a cluster of servers, etc.

Of course there are many nice folks who help keep the costs down (such as the moderators and fastservers.net, as well as the many others who offer to help), but having a reserve of $5K sitting in an account in case it's needed probably wouldn't hurt either.

[James]

count me in for a few bucks as well. and buying a banner spot:)

[proxy]

works fine for me.

[Chicken]

Originally posted by markblair:

I'm not sure this place needs an upgraded server. I guess Chicken could answer that for sure. Maybe in the future that would be needed but that's something that would probably fall in line with being paid for by sponsors/advertising. As far as donating to the cause, that wouldn't be a problem but again, I don't think it's necessary at the moment. :)
I think I missed this post before (or at least when I re-read it, it sure didn't seem familiar.

Summing up, at the current moment, with the recent fixes, server is doing good. It is nearly the only thing running on the server (a few other small sites), and even though it's not a powerhouse, it is doing the job (currently).

As I mentioned, I will use advertising in the future to build up a reserve in case of disasters and future needs. My primary goal is to provide a resource for the hosting community. This will be expanded (soon... but I always say, "soon").

[markblair]

Originally posted by Chicken:

I think I missed this post before (or at least when I re-read it, it sure didn't seem familiar.

Summing up, at the current moment, with the recent fixes, server is doing good. It is nearly the only thing running on the server (a few other small sites), and even though it's not a powerhouse, it is doing the job (currently).

As I mentioned, I will use advertising in the future to build up a reserve in case of disasters and future needs. My primary goal is to provide a resource for the hosting community. This will be expanded (soon... but I always say, "soon").

A post was made above that said that we should donate to HHO so this site could be run on a better server. Here's the quote specifically...

Originally posted by exasko:
I noticed the server this forum is on has been slow, and seems to be acting up. I would be willing to give Chicken some money to help him upgrade it... would anyone else be willing to do the same?

...I was just saying that sure we can donate but I didn't think a new server was needed, yet! I'm still sending you my payment, Chicken. Don't cancel me just yet, please Mr. Chicken! :bowdown:

[Operator]

I wouldn't mind contributing :). Let us know when the donation link is up!

[exasko]

Yes... I want to donate too :)

[notnamed]

HHO has been slow since I signed up. The slowest site I've been to in several months, discounting flash. It's not images or anything, they're all cached...I think it's the mySQL database. Anyhow, I find it really slow. I'm on Verizon dialup.

[Spencer]

Originally posted by notnamed: I'm on Verizon dialup. That's why. ;)

[notnamed]

Unless you mean routing problems I don't see how. It is, as I said, the slowest site I've been to/visited in several months, all the other major forums I visit (FWS, WHT) are much faster.

[Spencer]

Originally posted by notnamed:

Unless you mean routing problems I don't see how. It is, as I said, the slowest site I've been to/visited in several months, all the other major forums I visit (FWS, WHT) are much faster. Err... yeah, I forgot you said "slowest" and NOT "slow". I don't know then.

[Chicken]

Originally posted by notnamed:

HHO has been slow since I signed up. The slowest site I've been to in several months, discounting flash. It's not images or anything, they're all cached...I think it's the mySQL database. Anyhow, I find it really slow. I'm on Verizon dialup.

Unless you mean routing problems I don't see how. It is, as I said, the slowest site I've been to/visited in several months, all the other major forums I visit (FWS, WHT) are much faster.
Well, all three forums are in different datacenters, different providers. Can you post a trace route to the forum and maybe it will help expllin the sluggishness. I don't think it's the mySQL database, I think it's your route, but I'm not sure.

[exasko]

I think ever since I started here 2 weeks ago (even though I been signed up longer) I am logged on and active more then anyone... I would'nt say HHO is the slowest, I think its just as fast as WHT. I have had slow moments, but its back to its normal fast speed for me at least...



I have Cable

[notnamed]

E:\Documents and Settings\Jordan.XP>tracert hosthideout.com

Tracing route to hosthideout.com [64.62.140.215]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 158 ms 149 ms 149 ms tnt1.<removed for my privacy>.da.uu.net [<removed for my privacy>]
3 192 ms 198 ms 200 ms 67.195.7.29
4 196 ms 149 ms 199 ms 127.at-4-0-0.HR1.CHI2.ALTER.NET [152.63.65.154]

5 191 ms 151 ms 197 ms 0.so-6-3-0.XL1.CHI2.ALTER.NET [152.63.73.34]
6 189 ms 198 ms 199 ms 0.so-6-0-0.XL1.CHI13.ALTER.NET [152.63.70.101]
7 189 ms 199 ms 198 ms POS6-0.GW2.CHI13.ALTER.NET [152.63.71.205]
8 187 ms 197 ms 149 ms wcgGigECHI-gw.customer.alter.net [157.130.42.210
]
9 254 ms 248 ms 250 ms chcgil1wcx2-oc48.wcg.net [64.200.103.117]
10 264 ms 248 ms 250 ms dnvrco1wcx2-pos10-0.wcg.net [64.200.210.66]
11 550 ms 249 ms 250 ms snfcca1wcx3-pos11-0.wcg.net [64.200.240.94]
12 257 ms 248 ms 249 ms snfcca1wcx2-oc48.wcg.net [64.200.199.77]
13 286 ms 250 ms 250 ms 64.200.240.98
14 208 ms 199 ms 199 ms sntcca4lcx1-pos9-0.wcg.net [64.200.240.126]
15 239 ms 199 ms 200 ms sntcca4lce1-hurricane-gige.wcg.net [64.200.150.1
06]
16 242 ms 248 ms 251 ms gige-g5-0.gsr12008.fmt.he.net [216.218.214.217]

17 251 ms 201 ms 248 ms gsr12012.fmt.he.net [216.218.130.8]
18 189 ms 298 ms 250 ms gsr-fremont-ultraservers.hyperspace [64.71.160.4
6]
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.

It gets pretty slow after it gets out of my ISP (hop 7). But then of course it times out.

[markblair]

I just ran a tracert from dnsstuff.com to see what it showed there. It seemed fast but the last hop (#27) seems odd. Could be a problem on their end, though...

Hop Time 1 Time 2 Time 3 IP Hostname Return TTL Country Time
1 10 ms 37 ms 18 ms 216.26.128.225 kenny.fe-0-0-0.sdf.xodiax.net. 252 UNITED STATES Unix: 13:24:00.309
2 29 ms 34 ms 39 ms 65.117.168.137 chi-edge-09.inet.qwest.net. 251 UNITED STATES Unix: 13:24:00.360
3 30 ms 34 ms 34 ms 205.171.20.125 chi-core-03.inet.qwest.net. 250 UNITED STATES Unix: 13:24:00.411
4 100 ms 109 ms 132 ms 205.171.220.62 chp-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net. 250 UNITED STATES Unix: 13:24:00.731
5 28 ms 32 ms 38 ms 64.200.228.189 chcgil9lcx1-qwest-gige14-1.wcg.net. 249 UNITED STATES Unix: 13:24:00.731
6 61 ms 69 ms 79 ms 64.200.103.117 chcgil1wcx2-oc48.wcg.net. 241 UNITED STATES Unix: 13:24:00.731
7 80 ms 90 ms 99 ms 64.200.210.66 dnvrco1wcx2-pos10-0.wcg.net. 242 UNITED STATES Microsoft: 0:00:41.550
8 61 ms 70 ms 79 ms 64.200.240.94 snfcca1wcx3-pos11-0.wcg.net. 243 UNITED STATES Microsoft: 13:24:01.359
9 140 ms 150 ms 159 ms 64.200.199.77 snfcca1wcx2-oc48.wcg.net. 244 UNITED STATES Microsoft: 13:24:01.359
10 65 ms 99 ms 113 ms 64.200.151.93 sntcca1wcx2-pos2-0-oc48.wcg.net. 245 UNITED STATES Microsoft: 13:24:01.359
11 67 ms 95 ms 110 ms 64.200.240.126 sntcca4lcx1-pos9-0.wcg.net. 246 UNITED STATES Microsoft: 13:24:01.359
12 37 ms 26 ms 28 ms test.dnsstuff.com. Microsoft: 13:24:01.359
13 82 ms 45 ms 47 ms test.dnsstuff.com. Microsoft: 13:24:01.429
14 103 ms 76 ms 64 ms test.dnsstuff.com. Microsoft: 13:24:01.549
15 53 ms 55 ms 55 ms test.dnsstuff.com. Microsoft: 13:24:01.660
16 101 ms 103 ms 103 ms test.dnsstuff.com. Microsoft: 13:24:01.780
17 80 ms 62 ms 64 ms test.dnsstuff.com. Microsoft: 13:24:01.860
18 69 ms 71 ms 71 ms test.dnsstuff.com. Microsoft: 13:24:01.950
19 81 ms 83 ms 83 ms test.dnsstuff.com. Microsoft: 13:24:02. 40
20 78 ms 80 ms 80 ms test.dnsstuff.com. Microsoft: 13:24:02.130
21 88 ms 79 ms 62 ms test.dnsstuff.com. Microsoft: 13:24:02.210
22 74 ms 61 ms 63 ms test.dnsstuff.com. Microsoft: 13:24:02.300
23 67 ms 69 ms 69 ms test.dnsstuff.com. Microsoft: 13:24:02.391
24 78 ms 81 ms 81 ms test.dnsstuff.com. Microsoft: 13:24:02.481
25 85 ms 67 ms 73 ms test.dnsstuff.com. Microsoft: 13:24:02.571
26 64 ms 66 ms 66 ms test.dnsstuff.com. Microsoft: 13:24:02.661
27 210 ms 214 ms 214 ms 216.255.196.188 [Destination Unreachable]maggie.lahman.com. 113 Microsoft: 13:24:02. 29

[bradley]

And from SamSpade:

130.152.80.30 7.381 ms isi-1-lngw2-pos.ln.net [AS226] Los Nettos origin AS
4 198.172.117.161 8.022 ms ge-9-3.a01.lsanca02.us.ra.verio.net [AS2914] Verio
5 129.250.29.136 6.739 ms xe-1-0-0-4.r21.lsanca01.us.bb.verio.net [AS2914] Verio
6 129.250.2.187 15.603 ms p16-1-1-0.r21.snjsca04.us.bb.verio.net [AS2914] Verio
7 129.250.5.136 14.957 ms p16-7-0-0.r00.snjsca04.us.bb.verio.net [AS2914] Verio
8 206.223.116.37 11.057 ms sjo-ix.he.net (DNS error)
9 216.218.214.217 16.658 ms gige-g5-0.gsr12008.fmt.he.net [AS6939] HE.net
10 216.218.130.8 18.757 ms DNS error [AS6939] HE.net
11 64.71.160.46 19.644 ms gsr-fremont-ultraservers.hyperspace (DNS error) [AS6939] HE.net
12 64.62.140.215 19.441 ms DNS error [AS6939] HE.net

[interactive]

It's been great for me.

Chicken: Check out Google Adsense if you haven't. It's a cool little program:
http://www.Google.com/Adsense

[bradley]

just to clarify, the domain for AdSense is http://www.google.com/adsense - it is case-sensitive.

[interactive]

Thanks for the correction bradley.

[bradley]

anytime :)