HostGUI Failed?

[Adam]

Well, if you haven't seen already, check out http://hostgui.com it loosk like a very promising control panel, wit ha wealth of features.

The pricing for this control panel appeals too!

We had numerous promises as to a release date... all have fell through.

Finally, we had a very promising errr... 'promise' for release BEFORE the end of 2002. Well in my area 2003 has begun and 2002 has gone. So whether it will be released in the next few hours (time zone difference) still remains a mystery.

Let's hope we just aren't in store for yet another disappointment.

[rochen]

Failed, no I don't think so. Late, yes for sure :)

Same with MCHost's VirtualCP...

[Dave]

We just have to patiently wait for it, I'm sure we will see something soon.

[SWR]

Like Dave says (sorta); why not just wait until it comes out?

[michaeln]

It will come out you simply have to be patient. I don't think they are going to be giving any more dates; however, I am sure that you will see it in the next 2 months.

[Chicken]

The Jaguar PC guys, Greg, etc., are a decent bunch, and this is only constructive criticism, but I think they should have held off making announcements until it was very close to completion. It was quite a bit ago since they took pre-orders (so long that I can't recall exactly when), and that's a bit too long to wait for people.

When you're just putting cosmetic touches on something and it could be released, you can announce "soon", but they jumped the gun a bit and have taken a fair amount of heat over it. I'm sure it will be great when it is released (assuming it will be released), however everyone just has to sit back and put it out of their head until that time.

Be interesting if/when it does come out to see how it stacks up against others.

[Brownie]

:fork:

In my personal opinion, its VapourWare just like NocSoft, Voxel.net CP, and the VDI cp.

:rolleyes:

[Incognito]

So far, I have found it completely trouble free...haven't experienced any bugs....

oh.....just realized, I don't have it yet...maybe that's why no problems.

Why, oh why, did Jaq dig such a hole? He distanced from all the earlier promotion, but then "promised" 2002 vehemently.

[michaeln]

I think Greg had the best intentions. Things just have not worked out the way he planned. That doesn't mean HostGUI is never going to come out. Nor does it mean that it will be an untrustworthy control panel.

[Rewdog]

I definitely have never seen so much anticipation over a piece of web-ware. I mean close to 700 members of the forum of software without a demo or release!

[DigitalXWeb]

Originally posted by Chicken
It was quite a bit ago since they took pre-orders (so long that I can't recall exactly when), and that's a bit too long to wait for people.



Well as crazy as it may seem we are one of those pre-order people and the date was 1/26/02. We have decided that if hits the 1 year mark without a release we will be requesting a refund because my patients will have definitely hit its max by then.

[LetsFly]

I think the main reason why they attempted to jump the gun was because of cpanels past problems, and non-existant new features and it blew up in their face when they realized it was going to take longer then a few years to develop a stable panel.

They used that to their advantage and it got Nick and crew working overtime, and they still are adding new features daily.

[Chicken]

Originally posted by DigitalXWeb
Well as crazy as it may seem we are one of those pre-order people and the date was 1/26/02.
Was this when they started offering pre-orders? I thought it was even before that, but could be wrong?

And Gary made some good points. Cpanel did seem to be struggling a bit a one time (at least there were many more complaints posted about it), however they seem to have kicked things into high gear.

I tried to convince Nick to have the Cpanel support forums here. he didn't go for it, heh. :D

[DizixCom]

Now there's the irony. HostGUI, even in a non-existant state, has been a benefit to us who do use CPanel.

Thank you HostGUI team!

[Chicken]

Well when/if it does come out, if it does blow everything out of the water, many of the cpanel'ers will be :banghead:

Lots of if/when's though...

[interactive]

Originally posted by Chicken
Well when/if it does come out, if it does blow everything out of the water, many of the cpanel'ers will be :banghead:

Lots of if/when's though...

Too many if's. I think when they keep making so many promises an breaking them all eventually even if they do finish it, it will come down on them. Just my 2 cents though

[Saeed]

It's going to be very hard to create a better product than CPanel since CPanel has improved a lot in the last few months and is still improving by the day. The CPanel we have today is nothing like the CPanel we had a year ago when the others decided to start developing their own products.

[michaeln]

Looks like hostgui prepaid clients will find something out soon:

http://www.hostgui.com/support/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=648

[alchiba]

Originally posted by Chicken
I tried to convince Nick to have the Cpanel support forums here. he didn't go for it, heh. :D

I wish you had at least convinced him to pick up a vBulletin license. That forum script he's got is the pits.

This HostGUI debacle is very amusing. What I can't fathom is why any sober individual, as a customer, would pay in advance for software that has yet to be developed let alone tested. P.T. Barnum sure hit the nail on the head.

[interactive]

Originally posted by alchiba
I wish you had at least convinced him to pick up a vBulletin license. That forum script he's got is the pits.

This HostGUI debacle is very amusing. What I can't fathom is why any sober individual, as a customer, would pay in advance for software that has yet to be developed let alone tested. P.T. Barnum sure hit the nail on the head.

Totally agree. Why pay for something thats not there? Anyways so I guess it's done now? Or almost done. Sounds like it anyways

[Chicken]

I don't know, that announcement doesn't say that. it doesn't state a date, only that those who pre-ordered will be contacted (when?). So it seems that things are still more or less, in the same state. I'd guess they'll hold of posting any more release dates, quarters, (and possibly years ;)) ...
Originally posted by alchiba
I wish you had at least convinced him to pick up a vBulletin license. That forum script he's got is the pits.
Heh, yeah I know. I thought I had a shot...

[DigitalXWeb]

Originally posted by Chicken
Was this when they started offering pre-orders? I thought it was even before that, but could be wrong?



It may have been at the beginning of Jan 2002 because we delayed our preorder for about 1 - 2 weeks after it was announced.

I agree though HostGui has defenitely added improvement to Cpanel even if it does or doesnt exist yet.

[Adam]

Just to clear things up i too tihnk Greg and the rest of JagPC team are great, and yes i understan dthe true complexity or such a advanced piece of software.

By dis-appointment i meant by them setting some dates, yet not sticking to them.

Although im glad to let you know after reading an Update off HostGUI the release is very close and people who have pre-ordered will get a demo of what it's like before the public get to have a ride.

:D

[StarGate]

I called Greg at home the other day for Happy New Year and all and he said it will be out these days. I have no reason to not believe him.

[Foxxie]

You can only take so many disapointment's, and I'm afraid i've been disapointed in HostGUI to the point I have no faith at all, and believe the only thing they're going to release is a announcement of failure. That is if they even have the courage to announce that :rolleyes:.

[insiderhosting]

Personally greg, tim, et al seem like a great bunch of guys, but this Hostgui stuff is very bad publicly for his company. I agree with what chicken said before when he said that they should have had a near completed product before releasing any information about it.

My problems with Hostgui are as follows: They knew that they were going to miss the projected date of release, plain and simple. They knew exactly how far along it was, yet they failed to release any information about it. The dec 31 date was the rock solid date that Greg posted on many forums, and it came and passed like the wind. Personally, I don't care that they missed a release date all that much, what I do care about is their communication blatantly SUCKS. They refuse to tell you how far along they are, and they refuse to tell you when it will be completed. Is this the type of communication that we can look forward to enjoying? Only time can tell, but I would not look at this "software" and I use that term very loosely to be the be all end all.

-Steven

[MCHost-Marc]

Originally posted by alchiba
That forum script he's got is the pits.

That's true, way too many bugs. Whenever i click 'search' it logs me out :D :D

[StarGate]

I wil lhave to wait until 12th myself before I get the first build to play with, I mean beside the one I played with some 8 months ago but that was far from "ready".

I will make sure to post impressions and screenshots and after another 1-2 weeks you guys can get it via normal sales after I (and others) "eaten" away all the bugs :baghead:

[suppleSupport]

yet another hostgui thread ^^ :baghead:

[LetsFly]

the only good hostgui thread is a dead one

[Adam]

HG forums seem to be pretty dead too :|

[Jag]

ya, we havent put much ... really no new info out in recent months about hostgui. Have to agree our forums there are not jumping but thats fine by me since its not released publicly. I'll probably post some live screenshots here soon but still not let out some of the well kept secrets.

[interactive]

Are you insinuating it's completed?

[Locke]

No, he's insinuating it's in alpha stages. According to what he recently released, select companies have been chosen to start testing out HostGUI, am I wrong Jag?

Anyways, MCHost's VirtualCP was recently announced by Marc that it didn't measure up to what they were expecting to be released, but it will be continued/revamped and released under a 'more attractive name', I am hoping I got that right?

However, the only downfall to some control panel companies is announcing dates they don't make. The panel being made by a 13 year old or something, NeoPanel, he always says a big update next month, etc., etc., etc. HostGUI is following along the same path, but hey, if they release it, you can be sure we're going to try it out. I just hope it's released soon, and has a nice edge over competition, since we use pretty much all the panels out currently for *nix, with the exception of Webmin, SimpleCP, WebCP, and HSphere(for the time being). I just don't get why some would pay in advance for software that isn't released, but Greg said that if they would of requested a refund, they would of supplied it, so I don't believe there is any loss involved at all.

[Adam]

Well when released, if HostGUI lives up to expectations and is stable and reliable, you can bet i'll be purchasing a few licenses =)

[interactive]

Originally posted by Locke:
The panel being made by a 13 year old or something, NeoPanel, he always says a big update next month, etc., etc., etc. HostGUI is following along the same path, but hey, if they release it, you can be sure we're going to try it out.

He's not a bad kid, but I personally think he's lying through a horse's ass. Like you said, he keeps on saying it will be next month, next week, tomarrow, etc. I don't think anything well ever surface (such as even a alpha).

[Locke]

Oh, I don't think he's a bad kid at all, but he does like to tell fairy tales repeatidly. :p:

[interactive]

Originally posted by Locke:

Oh, I don't think he's a bad kid at all, but he does like to tell fairy tales repeatidly. :p:

And rip people off. I heard about the KingComp ordeal. Wouldn't do business with the guy.

[Adam]

lol