Getting IP address problem

[Cyberland]

Hello. First, I am a reseller. I have a customer who wants to sign up 30 accounts for his business. He also wants 30 different IP addresses – one for each domain name. How difficult would it be to get IPs? The company I purchase reselling from states that the customer would have to have a very good reason for obtaining them, which is what I also read. So, how the heck would a customer get that many IPs?

[JeremyV]

Most common reasons to obtain additional IP addresses is for nameservers, sometimes anonymous FTP, and SSL.

If your client simply wants 30 different IPs so each domain can have a different IP, that is pretty silly and most likely your provider will not allow it. Really, there is no reason at all each domain needs it's own IP, especially if every domain is hosted on the same server. People sometimes think if one site goes down, since others are not on the same IP they will remain up, etc.

But the days where every domain get's its own dedicated IP address are pretty much gone.

[Chicken]

Originally posted by Cyberland:

The company I purchase reselling from states that the customer would have to have a very good reason for obtaining them...
Does he have a good reason? From what you posted, it doesn't seem so, but you didn't mention why he wants 30 IP addresses.

[Cyberland]

He wants them so as the sites the company manages will have better placement in the search engines (yes I know, this is debatable) but that is he reason.

[JeremyV]

Hey, I just saw you are from Big Rapids :D

But I don't think your host will consider that a valid enough reason to grant them.. and you're right, the search engine issue is another outdated issue some people still cling onto. I've debated with a few customers who insisted they needed to fill their site with every single meta tag keyword possible to even be considered to be listed in google :D

[101sales]

The days of IP based hosting are gone, and unless you need it for security reasons (Certificate) there is no point.

[Cyberland]

Yes JeremyV. I live in the north woods - where it is still colder then a - well, it's just cold yet :)

I guess the point if moot as the guy went to another host and got was he wanted. I just hated to see that many accounts go out the door. :(

[JeremyV]

It would be a shame to see 30 possible accounts leave... but that person would be pretty hard-pressed to find someone who will just give away 30 IP addresses. Even as a co-lo or leasing your own dedicated machine, most companies do not grant a great number of IPs, usually just enough to give you nameservers, SSL and a few other essential features.

And I'm in the Lansing area, the weather isn't too much better down this way :(

[Cyberland]

I did not really lose 30 accounts. I only have about 5. The guy is from a company that uses a half dozen host now. Their company wanted to consolidate the 30 sites they manage at this time and move them to one host. From the way the guy was talking, although he did not come out and say it, one of the other host he was using offered to sell him the IPs for his sites. Anyway, thanks for the help and info.

Lansing. Nice town – nice college :)

[JeremyV]

Thanks, I spent 5 years at MSU getting a degree I'm not even using now :D

But I understand, I know my providers will sell IPs... but even selling them they request a valid reason for them. So they may be charging him quite a bit to get them. You may want to ask your provider if they are able to sell IPs, as they may sell them in **** at a discount rate, then you could retain all of the domains with you rather than having him go elsewhere for it :)

[Cyberland]

That's where the problem is. My provider is saying he is having a hard time getting IPs and does not have enough to go around as it is now. ARIN appears to be getting very picky in handing out IPs.